Source: (2005) In Wanda D. McCaslin, ed., Justice as Healing: Indigenous Ways. Writings on Community Peacemaking and Restorative Justice from the Native Law Centre. St. Paul, MN: Living Justice Press. Pp. 93-97.

A traditional story published in Justice as Healing (1997) 2:2, this story was read by Elder William Commanda at the Aboriginal Justice Learning Network Constituency Meeting of Elders, policy makers, and academics on 16 and 17 April 1997 in Alymer, Quebec. The story is found in The Mishomis Book: The Voice of the Ojibway by Edward Benton Banai (St. Paul, Minnesota: Indian Country Press, 1979).